Evidence of meeting #18 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was schreiber.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Elmer MacKay  As an Individual
Karlheinz Schreiber  As an Individual

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Okay, what was the nature of the discussion you had with Mr. Thibault?

4:55 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Well, it was very funny. We spoke about a lot of things, about what he's doing in Nova Scotia. He was the Minister of Fisheries, and he went with Allan Rock to the same fishing camp as Jim Irving, where I was, and stuff like this.

Then, of course, I asked him what is it with this committee. This is the first time I witnessed something like this, and I asked him about technicalities; for example, what about the Speaker's warrant, how does it work, things like that.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Mr. Schreiber, the reason I'm asking these questions is that I want to understand that the committee has all the information that you've provided to Mr. Thibault, that we're not missing out on any information.

4:55 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Yes, that's correct.

4:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

That's fair enough.

Mr. Hubbard, please.

February 25th, 2008 / 4:55 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

I'll be very quick.

We've had a number of people appear before the committee--Mr. Pelossi, Fred Doucet, Mr. Alford--and there's been a great deal of talk about Frank Moores. With his company, in terms of the Airbus sales, how much money did GCI get from the Airbus deal?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

The point is that all the money that was paid from Airbus Industrie belonged to GCI.

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

How much money?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

All of it.

I'm sorry, I learn all the time. It was about $20 million. I cannot identify this too much, because all my documents are with the authorities over there, and it was stuff from Thailand and from other countries. But take it as roughly $20 million.

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

Again, with Bear Head, another $4 million was put into an account.

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As an Individual

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

So we're up to at least $24 million, maybe $25 million.

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As an Individual

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

We're concerned with the evidence Mr. Doucet gave, because I find here--and I guess it's public knowledge--a $90,000 cheque from Bitucan, one of your companies, to Mr. Doucet when he may or may not have been in the Prime Minister's Office.

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

He did work for you.

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As an Individual

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

Now, the $300,000, you brought that into Canada illegally.

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As an Individual

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

Did you bring other moneys into the country?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

No, it was $200,000, because the other one was the United States, sir. I apologize.

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

Okay, it was into North America. So Mr. Mulroney had so much in the United States too. We'll have to look into that.

But in terms of other moneys that you brought into this country in cash, was it your habit to bring in $100,000, $300,000, $500,000?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

No, but when I was arrested the first time in 1999--you may have heard this--everybody made great fun about all I had in my travelling purse, which was the normal kit when you are a constant traveller. I hated to bring the money back in foreign currency and always pay the exchange rate. So I kept it all, and always I had at least around $50,000 in my bag, and then in different currencies. Because when you travel in strange countries, once in a while you can work only with cash and nothing else, when you have an accident.

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Liberal

Charles Hubbard Liberal Miramichi, NB

Mr. Schreiber, we have trouble believing what you.... It sounds maybe like a half-credible story. But are you able to give this committee some documentation on where the $4 million went, or where some of the other money went? Mr. Pelossi maintains he was ripped off by you because he didn't get his part of the commissions. He got only $1 million.

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Mr. Pelossi said, first of all, that I lie all the time, especially after I put the police after him and I sued the company. I brought his criminal record today--what all happened to him afterwards. I was amazed that I was such a truthful man until I--