Evidence of meeting #18 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was schreiber.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Elmer MacKay  As an Individual
Karlheinz Schreiber  As an Individual

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Order. The issue of relevance is here.

Mr. Murphy, on a point of order.

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Liberal

Brian Murphy Liberal Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe, NB

On a point of order, I just don't think that this line of questioning has anything to do with the Airbus settlement.

Mr. Hiebert is a lawyer. He knows there is no prompting a witness.

I don't want to sound like Mr. Tilson, but I'll just briefly finish my point of order--on two fronts. I hope you got them. Good. Thank you.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Mr. Hiebert, I'm going to give you an opportunity to explain the relevance of your questions about the meetings between Mr. Thibault and Mr. Schreiber to our work. You have an opportunity. Please explain it to us.

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Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

On the same point of order, Mr. Chairman, when Mr. Rodriguez was questioning Mr. Mulroney, he asked the exact question of Mr. Mulroney, and you allowed those questions.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

I'm sorry, which question was that?

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Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

The questions about who he met with.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Who Mr...?

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Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

My recollection is that Mr. Rodriguez asked questions of Mr. Mulroney as to which members of the committee he met with.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

I think that's on the wireless thing that you're referring to, and that was--

February 25th, 2008 / 4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

No, he asked if he had ever met with members of the government, and you allowed those questions.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Okay. I don't think.... We have to make good time here.

Mr. Hiebert, please go ahead with your questions, and we'll see how this unfolds. You have about a minute and a half.

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Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Actually, I would like to restart the clock, so that I don't—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

No, we did stop it when we got into the point of order.

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Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Well, we'll have to do this very quickly.

So you've said you met with Mr. Thibault last August. You said you met with him a second time. Have you met with him more than twice?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

No, not in my recollection. Number one, I don't know whether it was in August. I assume it was before I was in detention. It could have been earlier or later; I don't know.

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Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Late summer, early spring. Then you met with him more recently. Do you remember, more recently, when you met with him?

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As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Yes. Look, why do we play this cat and mouse? It was in the paper that I met with Mr. Martin, so why don't you take--

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Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

So you're saying you met with him twice. I'm taking that as twice.

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As an Individual

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Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Did you provide any information to him that you have not provided to this committee?

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As an Individual

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Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Okay. Have you met with any other MPs on this committee?

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As an Individual

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Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

No other person around this table have you ever met with?

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