Information & Ethics Committee on Feb. 25th, 2008

Evidence of meeting #18 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was schreiber.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Study of the Mulroney Airbus Settlement

Committee Business

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Elmer MacKay As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber As an Individual

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Right, the blank one, I agree.

Let's talk about the contents of the version you submitted, the one without the handwriting. It states....

Actually, let's go back to a letter you wrote to our committee chair just a couple of weeks ago. I quote from the February 3 letter that you sent to our committee. It says, “I never hired Brian Mulroney to promote the TH495 Armoured Fighting Vehicle internationally.” That's what you wrote, that you never hired Brian Mulroney to promote this vehicle internationally.

4:50 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Yes.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Yet the version of the document that you're familiar with and that you submitted states that the mandate of Mr. Mulroney includes, among other things, “travelling abroad to meet with government and private sector leaders to assist in opening new markets for our products...”.

4:50 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

But this is nonsense.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

But I'm wanting to know the content—

4:50 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

He wanted me to sign this, and I didn't sign it. Don't you get that? Backbiting, stuff like this--am I out of my mind?

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC

Mr. Schreiber, it appears that in some context you have confidence in this document, so much that you're willing to submit it to the committee and to the Ontario court.

4:50 p.m.

As an Individual

Karlheinz Schreiber

Yes, it was a Christmas meeting where I called him at his home--“I am not going to commit perjury; tell this to your friend.” And then he came back with this funny document. Don't take it out of context.

4:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Paul Szabo

Order, order.

Just for the benefit of the translation booth, it's very difficult when two people are talking at the same time. So I ask for your indulgence, gentlemen.