Evidence of meeting #16 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was screen.
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Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office
This credit is not just for companies in the nuclear sector. It's available to a number of companies, mostly in the renewable energy sector, so there are a lot of them around the world.
Bloc
Luc Thériault Bloc Montcalm, QC
However, the tax credits set out in Bill C‑15 pertain specifically to small nuclear power plants.
Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office
No.
Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office
By all means.
Bloc
Luc Thériault Bloc Montcalm, QC
So are you going to reverse yourself by sending a message to the committee pointing out that error?
Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office
The tax credit applies to the nuclear sector, among others, yes.
Bloc
Luc Thériault Bloc Montcalm, QC
It's a sector where there are so few companies.
So you didn't ask the Prime Minister to recuse himself, then?
Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office
There's a wide range of companies around the world that are in that situation. The important question to ask is whether those companies could benefit disproportionately. In this case, the answer is no.
Bloc
Luc Thériault Bloc Montcalm, QC
Even if your daughters own Westinghouse, you don't think that's enough. That's okay. I'm just trying to understand—
Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office
It could be serious.
Bloc
Luc Thériault Bloc Montcalm, QC
Yes, it could be serious, and I think it is.
You can give me that answer, except that you said earlier that you took action and applied the conflict of interest screen as soon as you had any doubt. I look forward to seeing which two cases you decided there was a reasonable doubt on.
Conservative
Conservative
The Chair Conservative John Brassard
I'm sorry to interrupt you, Mr. Thériault.
Mr. Barrett, you have five minutes.
Go ahead.
Conservative
Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes, ON
I'm going to try to get through a couple of topics quickly, if I could, with you.
I'm hoping that you could undertake to provide in writing to the committee, for the period between the spring and now, how many discussions, decisions or votes were flagged under the screen, providing the details of each occurrence. Are you able to provide that to the committee in writing?
Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office
From when to when?
Conservative
Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes, ON
From when the screen existed until today.
Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office
I just did. It's 13.
Conservative
Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes, ON
What are the details of those? What are the reasons for the screen being invoked?
Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office
In some cases, the screen was invoked, and in other cases, the screen was not invoked.
Conservative
Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands—Rideau Lakes, ON
Could you provide the details of why it was invoked and why the review was triggered?
November 19th, 2025 / 5:45 p.m.
Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office
I can, but there are four circumstances that are still under way. In those circumstances, if we release that information, we've defeated the purpose of the screen, because the Prime Minister will be aware of what those circumstances are.
Other than those, can we give you the details? Absolutely.