Evidence of meeting #87 for Finance in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was capital.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Geoff Trueman  Director, Business Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Ted Cook  Senior Legislative Chief, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Shawn Porter  Director, Tax Legislation, Department of Finance
Ian Pomroy  Senior Tax Policy Officer, Social Tax Policy, Personal Income Tax Division, Department of Finance
Pierre Mercille  Senior Legislative Chief, Sales Tax Division, GST Legislation, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Kei Moray  Director, Intergovernmental Tax Policy, Evaluation and Research Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Annie Hardy  Chief, Financial Institutions Division, Structural Issues, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Jane Pearse  Director, Financial Institutions Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Jean-François Girard  Senior Project Leader, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Wayne Foster  Director, Financial Markets Division, Department of Finance
Dominique LaSalle  Director General, Seniors and Pensions Policy Secretariat, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development
Marianna Giordano  Director, CPP Policy and Legislation, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development
Krista Campbell  Director General, Strategic Policy Branch, Department of Industry

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Can you provide it?

4:20 p.m.

NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

Thank you.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

I will move on to part 2. I'll ask the officials for part 2 to come forward, please.

On behalf of the committee, I want to thank the officials for part 1. We appreciated that very much.

Part 2, as you know, colleagues, deals with amendments to the Excise Tax Act and the Jobs and Economic Growth Act.

I want to welcome our officials to the committee. Thank you very much for being with us here today.

Do you want to give a very brief overview of part 2?

Colleagues, do you have any specific questions on the section dealing with the amendments to the Excise Tax Act and the Jobs and Economic Growth Act?

We'll start with Monsieur Mai.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

From what I understand, the measures included in Part 2 were announced in 2007. But I would like to know why they are being applied now, in 2012.

November 1st, 2012 / 4:25 p.m.

Pierre Mercille Senior Legislative Chief, Sales Tax Division, GST Legislation, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

The measures included in that regard are part of a series of announcements that were made by the Department of Finance. First there was a communiqué on May 19, 2009. It was what we call an information document, without legislation. Another communiqué followed, on June 30, 2010. It included some proposed regulations, but no legislative proposal and no official text. It was meant for consultation. Some comments were conveyed and another communiqué was published on January 28, 2011. Draft legislation was included with it. In other words, we are not talking here about 2007.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

What sort of comments were made on the subject at that time?

4:25 p.m.

Senior Legislative Chief, Sales Tax Division, GST Legislation, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Pierre Mercille

Some elements of the bill are in response to comments we received. I can give you one example, where financial institutions used to have to claim a rebate from the provincial component of the HST during the actual period in which they incurred the expenditure. This was not standard. For financial institutions, the general rule regarding a claim for a tax credit respecting inputs is two years. This is an example of the changes we made in response to consultations.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

Will the proposed changes have impacts on tax liabilities with regard to pension plans offered by an employer or offered jointly by several employers?

4:25 p.m.

Senior Legislative Chief, Sales Tax Division, GST Legislation, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Pierre Mercille

The measures proposed here are not really designed to change the tax burden. Rather they are technical measures affecting the way of doing things. For example, we are proposing a simplified method over another method, or changing the fiscal year for the calendar year. These are not things that should have major consequences.

4:25 p.m.

NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

So it will not have major consequences as far as revenue is concerned. I see.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you.

On this section, Mr. Cuzner?

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Rodger Cuzner Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

Yes, this is on the financial institutions.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

This is part 2.

4:25 p.m.

Senior Legislative Chief, Sales Tax Division, GST Legislation, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Pierre Mercille

Yes, it's basically an amendment to the GST/HST relating to financial institutions.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Rodger Cuzner Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

Yes. Is it okay?

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Yes, go ahead. You have a five-minute round.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Rodger Cuzner Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

There were changes made in Bill C-45 and Bill C-38 with regard to this. Is there a reason they weren't presented together or presented to Parliament as a package?

4:25 p.m.

Senior Legislative Chief, Sales Tax Division, GST Legislation, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Pierre Mercille

You will have to remind me what is Bill C-38.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

I think it's—

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Rodger Cuzner Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

Sorry, I'm ahead of myself.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

—the first budget implementation act.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Rodger Cuzner Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

I'm slightly ahead of my time here, Mr. Chair, so we'll go at that again, okay?

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Okay. You're always ahead of your time, Mr. Cuzner.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Rodger Cuzner Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

I am sorry.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Okay, thank you.