Evidence of meeting #87 for Finance in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was capital.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Geoff Trueman  Director, Business Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Ted Cook  Senior Legislative Chief, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Shawn Porter  Director, Tax Legislation, Department of Finance
Ian Pomroy  Senior Tax Policy Officer, Social Tax Policy, Personal Income Tax Division, Department of Finance
Pierre Mercille  Senior Legislative Chief, Sales Tax Division, GST Legislation, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Kei Moray  Director, Intergovernmental Tax Policy, Evaluation and Research Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Annie Hardy  Chief, Financial Institutions Division, Structural Issues, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Jane Pearse  Director, Financial Institutions Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Jean-François Girard  Senior Project Leader, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Wayne Foster  Director, Financial Markets Division, Department of Finance
Dominique LaSalle  Director General, Seniors and Pensions Policy Secretariat, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development
Marianna Giordano  Director, CPP Policy and Legislation, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development
Krista Campbell  Director General, Strategic Policy Branch, Department of Industry

5:05 p.m.

Senior Project Leader, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Jean-François Girard

—how many transactions would be stayed.

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Liberal

Rodger Cuzner Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

There's no dollar value or anything like that on—

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Senior Project Leader, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Jean-François Girard

The dollar value would probably vary on a day-to-day basis, depending on the institutions. If you're talking about a large institution, you would expect the value would be greater than for a smaller institution.

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Liberal

Rodger Cuzner Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

Yes, but the question was whether over the last year there have been any instances.

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Senior Project Leader, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Jean-François Girard

There have been no instances.

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Liberal

Rodger Cuzner Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

That's since 2008.

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Senior Project Leader, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Jean-François Girard

Yes. The bridge bank regime was put in place in 2008, and it has not been used. These clauses have not been invoked so far.

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Liberal

Rodger Cuzner Liberal Cape Breton—Canso, NS

Great. Thanks.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Okay, thank you.

I want to thank our officials for being here to explain this division and for responding to our questions.

Mrs. Glover.

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Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

I was just wondering, Chair, if you've received any notice from opposition members. We had discussed perhaps advising officials for whom we wouldn't have any questions that they don't need to sit through all of this. I'm curious to know if you got any indication from the opposition about some divisions, such as division 11, division 17, and division 22, which are pretty innocuous.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

We don't have any indication so far. I could ask for it now.

My understanding is that we have officials for division 6, division 7, division 11, and division 14 here today. If I could, I'd like to finish those divisions.

Division 6 deals with the Bretton Woods and Related Agreements Act. I'm not sure if there will be questions. It's a fairly straightforward section, in my view.

Division 7 is on the Canada pension plan.

Division 11 is on the Merchant Seamen Compensation Act.

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Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

It was division 11.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

I'm assuming there would be more questions on divisions 7 and 14.

Is that fair for me to say, Mr. Caron?

5:05 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

I'm looking at them quickly.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

We'll go back to Mrs. Glover, and then we'll come back.

Mrs. Glover.

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Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

If I could just clarify, there was discussion with the opposition about division 11 not being necessary to review because of its simplicity. I thought we could address that so the officials who might be here could leave.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Okay.

Can I do this for division 6?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

Absolutely.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Let me do it for division 6 as well.

Division 6 is based on the G-20 commitment. It implements the government reforms agreed to by the members in 2010. We have a short briefing note by the Library of Parliament.

I don't know what members would ask.

Can we move on to division 7 on the Canada pension plan?

Okay, so we will consider division 6 done.

I think Mrs. Glover wants me to ask if I can get an indication, because we do have officials for divisions 7, 11, and 14, whether there will be questions on division 11. If there won't be, then she's right and we should release that official.

Will there be questions on the Merchant Seamen Compensation Act?

I'm seeing no questions.

5:10 p.m.

NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

Ms. Nash is not here. We wouldn't want to answer for her.

If we come back and realize that we don't have any questions regarding revenue.... Actually, we'll let you know if there's any division that we don't need. I think we still have 20 minutes.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Okay.

Could I have a gentlemen's and gentle ladies' agreement to finish division 14 by 5:30? Then the officials who are here won't have to come back on Monday. Is that fair?

Okay.

We'll move to division 7 on the Canada pension plan.

I want to welcome the officials. Thank you so much for joining us this Thursday afternoon.

We'll start with questions on this section.

We'll have a very short briefing, please.

November 1st, 2012 / 5:10 p.m.

Dominique LaSalle Director General, Seniors and Pensions Policy Secretariat, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development

I am Dominique LaSalle, Director General, Seniors and Pensions Policy Secretariat. I am accompanied by Marianna Giordano, Director, CPP Policy and Legislation.

Also with me is Ms. Cassandra Iwankow, who is the director of policy for CPP disability.

The amendments you have before you in division 7, part 4, are technical in nature. They flow from the triennial review of the Canada pension plan conducted between 2010 and 2012. These amendments do not change the benefits. They do not change the contribution rate. The amendments renumber some of the clauses and remove some unintended gaps, those sorts of technical issues.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you.

Do you have any questions, Mr. Mai?

5:10 p.m.

NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

Yes. These are questions we talked about during the briefing. What I understood was that the change did not in any way affect the complaint process, with regard to either the receipt of complaints or their analysis. Is that right?

5:10 p.m.

Director General, Seniors and Pensions Policy Secretariat, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development

Dominique LaSalle

No, there is no change. We just want the bodies, like the new Social Security Tribunal, which is going to replace the...

What was it called?