Finance Committee on May 29th, 2023

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

We saw a positive gesture, be it a thumbs-up or somebody saying “yea” or “yes.” There are many different ways of communicating whether it is a yea or a nay.

In my opinion, it was communicated by P.S. Beech as a yea, so we are moving on.

(Clauses 31 to 45 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

On a point of order, Chair, you've been a little harder on members on this side than on those on the other side when it comes to smuggling editorial comments into votes—

[Ariane Gagné-Frégeau, Legislative Clerk]

That's not a point of order.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

—or other comments. When a member is voting—

[Sophie Chatel, Liberal, Pontiac, QC]

That's not a point of order; it's a debate.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

It is a point of order. Let me finish.

[Julie Dzerowicz, Liberal, Davenport, ON]

[Inaudible—Editor] too long.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Oh, is there a time limit on points of order, Ms. Dzerowicz?

When a member is voting, they're generally not supposed to editorialize about their reasons for or against in the process of taking the vote. If that's allowed, then I would do it as well—

[Julie Dzerowicz, Liberal, Davenport, ON]

I have a point of order.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

—but there were members who were doing it repeatedly in the last couple of rounds.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

MP Genuis, we—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

This is a matter of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

MP Genuis, I'm listening to you. I've heard what you've had to say.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Thank you. Excellent.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

I'll say this to the members: Just give a positive sign. Say “yes” or “yea”, or give a thumbs-up or a thumbs-down. That is how members should vote. We will get through this, and we'll move forward.

Point taken, MP Genuis.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Thank you.

I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. I just have one other thing. I would like to move, since you've given me the floor—

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

There is no moving. No, MP Genuis. No, no, there is no debate.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

You gave me the floor.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

No, there isn't, MP Genuis.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

You gave me the floor.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

MP Genuis, there is no debate.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a motion on notice under Mr. Hallan's name.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

There is no debate.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

But you provided me the floor, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

There is no debate.