Evidence of meeting #23 for Health in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was medal.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

McCreery  Author and Historian, As an Individual
Girouard  Senior Privy Council Officer, Machinery of Government, Privy Council Office

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

I think Mr. Girouard spoke to this. I think it's going to be an order in council that's going to look at setting regulations that will set the bar for how many blood donations will fit the criteria.

Is that it?

4:15 p.m.

Senior Privy Council Officer, Machinery of Government, Privy Council Office

Joël Girouard

That's correct. Eligibility criteria will be determined or established by regulation. There will be one or more orders in council after the passage of the act, and that's how the thresholds would be established.

I can't speak to what those thresholds might be, because it would presuppose the decision of the Governor in Council, but I think that if you look at recognition programs now, it would be on the higher end of those.

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Does that answer your question, Monsieur Garon?

I see no other hands up. We have no more discussion. I shall ask for the vote on the amendment.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Chair, can we just pass it on division?

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Yes. You don't want to vote. You just want to pass on division.

(Amendment agreed to on division)

Shall clause 2 as amended carry?

(Clause 2 as amended agreed to)

(Clauses 3 to 5 agreed to)

(On clause 6)

The next amendment is on clause 6. You all have G-2 in your list. G-2 has been replaced by an amended G-2. I hope you have it. That's what we're discussing. All right?

Ms. Chi, go ahead.

Maggie Chi Liberal Don Valley North, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I would like to move a new amendment. The amendment replaces G-2 in your package and has been shared with the clerk and all the members of the committee in both languages.

I move that Bill C-234 in clause 6 be amended by replacing lines 14 to 18 on page 2 with the following:

6(1) The Governor General may award the Medal to a person who has donated one of their organs without profiting from the donation and is eligible for the Medal under the regulations.

The amendment would also delete from line 21 on page 2 to line 2 on page 3.

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Is there any discussion?

Monsieur Garon.

Jean-Denis Garon Bloc Mirabel, QC

I just want to make sure I understand what the amendment says. Would the amendment make it possible, theoretically, for the Governor General to award the medal to a non-Canadian who donated an organ to another non-Canadian?

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

I'm sorry, Mr. Garon.

Jean-Denis Garon Bloc Mirabel, QC

Madam Chair, I'd be happy to repeat it.

According to the new language in G‑2, the Governor General would be able to award the medal to anyone who makes an organ donation without profiting from the donation and who meets the eligibility criteria. The reference to a Canadian citizen and permanent resident is not there.

I understand that there will be criteria, but theoretically, does this language make it possible to recognize a non-Canadian who does not live in Canada and who makes a donation to a non-Canadian who does not live in Canada?

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

I will ask the Privy Council to speak to that.

4:20 p.m.

Senior Privy Council Officer, Machinery of Government, Privy Council Office

Joël Girouard

Yes, Madam Chair.

Since the regulations will be structured around those who validate a potential recipient's eligibility—meaning, provincial and territorial health partners—a non-Canadian could, in theory, receive the medal. However, the donation would have to have been made within the Canadian health system.

Therefore, a donation that did not take place in Canada and that did not involve a Canadian would not be eligible, since the Canadian organizations responsible for validating recipient eligibility would not be able to conduct the necessary checks.

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Are you happy with the answer?

Jean-Denis Garon Bloc Mirabel, QC

Yes, Madam Chair.

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Good.

Is there any further discussion on this amendment? No. I will call the question then.

(Amendment agreed to on division)

(Clause 6 as amended agreed to)

(On clause 7)

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Before we vote on clause 7, I think Ms. Chi has an amendment.

Maggie Chi Liberal Don Valley North, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I move G-3.

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Does everyone want her to read it for the record? You have it. Are you good with it?

Did you wish to speak to it?

Maggie Chi Liberal Don Valley North, ON

No. I'm good.

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

All right. Are there any questions or debate? Seeing no debate, shall the amendment carry?

(Amendment agreed to)

(Clause 7 as amended agreed to)

We have amendment G-4, which proposes new clause 7.1.

Ms. Chi.

Maggie Chi Liberal Don Valley North, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I move G-4.

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

All right. Everyone has G-4 in front of them. Is there any debate on G-4? No. Shall G-4 carry?

(Amendment agreed to)

(On clause 8)

Now we'll move to G-5 and clause 8.

Ms. Chi.

Maggie Chi Liberal Don Valley North, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I move G-5.

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Is there any debate on G-5? No. Shall G-5 carry?

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

On division.

(Amendment agreed to on division)

(Clause 8 as amended agreed to)