Evidence of meeting #55 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was opposition.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Anne Lawson  General Counsel and Senior Director, Elections Canada
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Lauzon
Andre Barnes  Committee Researcher
David Groves  Analyst, Library of Parliament

9:04 a.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

I'm kind of merging the two. I can understand why my friend might be confused, but I was talking about the Liberal election. The Trump election plays into this too; there is a merging of the thoughts. I can appreciate where I'm maybe not being as clear as I need to be when I'm talking about mandates and newly elected people.

Thank you for that, Mr. Reid. I will be on guard to try to be clear in my differentiation.

No, it's quite the opposite. Again, I'm talking about the beginning, which almost seems like it was a different party or, at the very least, a political lifetime ago. Really, we're only talking about weeks, not even months, since they suddenly became as vicious as they are now. There had been indications. We saw things, such as, for example, Bill C-33 and motion number six. This stuff was already there. It just hadn't burbled to the top.

In reference to the Star editorial, I'll read it again. It's good for the government. Where is it...?

Sorry, Chair. I'm not trying to deliberately delay.

It says:

This jibes with an Ekos poll that found that, after decades of erosion, public trust in government spiked after Trudeau’s election win.

I was commenting on how well they played that out, just like a symphony, for days, weeks, and what became months. It looked like it was going to be years. It was politics at its best.

Again, I remember some of those heady days. Our honeymoon didn't last quite as long as this one did, and most don't, but, boy, the government just played it brilliantly. I give the government full marks. There was nary a stumble. Where there's a stumble, a picture of the Prime Minister underneath a headline that attacked the government, just like the Star editorial, takes a lot of the sting away.

This is the only thing that has really stuck in a big way. There have been some other things.

We should have known when we saw motion six. That was unreal. It practically suspended every right the opposition had. The only saving grace was that there was a time limit, but that doesn't change the fact that for a period of months the government was about to give itself spectacular omnipotent powers to run roughshod, at will, over the opposition.

If anybody thinks I'm being a little histrionic in that, go take a look at motion six. Find out what ministers could do by declaration alone. I haven't visited it in a while, and I stand to be corrected. I believe a minister could actually end debate by a declaration. If that's not accurate, there was a similar application. It was, like, unbelievable, let alone having it come from a Liberal government, let alone a Trudeau-led Liberal government.

The only thing that caused the government to back away was the explosion on the floor of the House, when there were accusations of people being manhandled. That brought everything to an acute head. The Prime Minister had to apologize. To his credit, he said that he would take action to ensure that the tone changed and that we would see that action imminently.

To the Prime Minister's credit, within a couple of hours, the government House leader, who I referred to earlier in terms of his respectful request of this committee, Mr.Dominic LeBlanc, rose in his place and announced that the government was withdrawing motion six. That took all the sting out of it. That took the air out of it. Everybody calmed down. That did give us a chance to get back on track.

Most of us thought, okay, that's the last we'll ever see of that ugliness, because even Harper, in his wildest dreams, would never have suggested that he take that kind of power—raw power—and remove what little rights the opposition still had. Lo and behold, motion six finds itself in a reincarnated form known as a “discussion paper”. It's not quite as ugly as motion six, but it is politically ugly in its own right in terms of what it suggests the government would like to do to the nuisance opposition.

To continue with the editorial:

Canadians embraced Trudeau's positive vision and took hope from early signals. His openness with the media, for instance, is a clear improvement over his predecessor.

It was a pretty low bar, which he more than cleared, I will say, but it was a low bar.

9:04 a.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

Let it go.

9:04 a.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Listen, I keep telling you that, man. I have the floor, and you just don't seem to want to learn.

9:04 a.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

Let it go. It's in the past.

9:04 a.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

You don't want to learn.

I'll remind my friend Mr. Doherty that the next time he brags about something the Stephen Harper government did, you can't have it both ways. The closest to that is to take the compliments when you can and keep your head down the rest of the time. I don't know why the scars on my back are not convincing enough to my honourable colleagues that it's is the best course of action.

9:04 a.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

In all fairness, David, you're thin with the compliments, so we just have to keep our heads down all the time.

9:04 a.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

There has to be a compliment in there somewhere.

9:04 a.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

Just throw us a bone once in a while.

9:04 a.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Okay. Now you're going to give me a challenge. I have to think of something I can.... Help me. Guide me to where that promised land was. I forget.

9:04 a.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

You liked Harper's hair.

9:04 a.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

No.

9:04 a.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

You thought he had good fashion sense.

9:04 a.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

I agree that there has to be something. It's just escaping me right now.

9:04 a.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

You said it last night. It was that you knew where you stood with—

9:04 a.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

I was hoping for something better than that to give you, but yes, I knew where I stood consistently.

There has to be something you did that I liked. There has to be. Nobody could be that bad. I'll work with my staff. We'll think of something.

9:04 a.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

David, let me think about it. I still have several hours, so I'll come up with something.

9:04 a.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Yes, but what's interesting is that even your team needs time to think about something that I would consider a positive thing, and I'm trying to be fair-minded.

9:04 a.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

I want to be Christopherson-friendly in my approach.

9:04 a.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Oh well, far be it from me to try to figure out what that means. I will leave it with you.

Sincerely, I'm sure there is. It doesn't come to my mind. Help me. Give me something the Harper government did that was good, and I will be glad to compliment it to further make the case that nobody can be wrong all the time. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

9:04 a.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

David, I have something. We did not impose unilateral changes to the Standing Orders to eviscerate the existing Standing Orders.

9:04 a.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Normally I would laugh at that, because you want me to compliment the government on something they didn't do, but in this case, it is absolutely apropos that even Stephen Harper did not. I don't know why you think this is helpful, but I'll use it. Even Stephen Harper wouldn't do this horrible anti-democratic thing, and we all know how undemocratic he was.

9:04 a.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

Oh no.

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9:04 a.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

See? That didn't work out the way I think you wanted it to. You have to work with me here. Anyway, I leave it with you as a little homework. It's something to think about other than listening to me drone on.

Your mission, should you decide to accept it, Mr. Reid, is to find something that the Stephen Harper government did in its almost 10 years in office that one lonely Hamilton MP named Christopherson can give some compliment to. I await your words.

9:04 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

How about [Inaudible—Editor]