Natural Resources Committee on Sept. 22nd, 2022

[Francesco Sorbara, Liberal, Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON]

Mr. Chair, I'm moving to adjourn debate on their motion.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair. The motion was to sustain the ruling of the chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

No, this is not a point of order. Mr. Sorbara, the floor is yours.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

The motion was to sustain the ruling of the chair. I'd like to hear from the clerk. Can we hear from the non-partisan clerk? It was a vote to sustain the ruling of the chair.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

Mr. Sorbara has the floor.

[Francesco Sorbara, Liberal, Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON]

Chair, can we get a roll call?

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

It was a vote to sustain the ruling of the chair.

[Francesco Sorbara, Liberal, Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON]

I'd like to move the motion to adjourn.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I'm challenging the ruling that he can move that motion.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

We have a motion—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Mr. Chair, I want roll call votes for everything, first of all, so if you're proceeding to a vote it should be a roll call.

[Francesco Sorbara, Liberal, Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON]

Let's go to a roll call right now.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

On a point of order, you asked us for a vote on sustaining the ruling of the chair with respect to the speaking list and then you took the opposite side.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

You can't debate on a vote that's been called, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

The vote's been called. We're done and we now have another vote to adjourn debate.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Mr. Chair, we just had a very clear vote on a challenge to the chair—

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

The vote's been called. This is not a debate. It's not debatable.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

The committee voted to sustain the ruling of the chair. Your previous ruling had been that Mr. Sorbara—

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

—was the next one to go.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Your previous ruling was that Mr. Sorbara was after me.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

Mr. Genuis, we have a motion now—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Is that not what you had ruled?

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

We have a motion now to adjourn. We're going to do the recorded vote on it.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Mr. Chair, you inverted the meaning of the vote after it had taken place.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

No, you did.