Evidence of meeting #41 for Public Accounts in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was funds.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Deputy Commissioner, Corporate Management and Comptrollership, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
There remains $340,000, and we are in discussions with Public Works and Government Services Canada to see who will reimburse that amount.
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Bloc
Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC
So the money will be returned to them. How long do you expect it will take?
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Deputy Commissioner, Corporate Management and Comptrollership, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
That depends on Public Works and Government Services Canada. We are holding regular discussions.
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Bloc
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Deputy Commissioner, Corporate Management and Comptrollership, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Could you repeat that?
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Bloc
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Deputy Commissioner, Corporate Management and Comptrollership, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
As soon as possible.
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Bloc
Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC
That is not what I wanted to know. How long did it take to squander the money?
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Deputy Commissioner, Corporate Management and Comptrollership, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
It took three years.
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Deputy Commissioner, Corporate Management and Comptrollership, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Yes.
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Bloc
Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC
That being said, I see that an individual—the RCMP's senior Human Resources Director—quit. I take it he was in shock. The Director of the National Compensation Policy Centre was suspended and later quit. One of those people, if I understood correctly, received a $13,000 performance bonus.
Is that correct? Can someone answer that?
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Deputy Commissioner, Human Resources, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
The performance bonuses for the RCMP, as with all the EX positions across government, are given annually. The individual in question was accorded a bonus for having met his duties--his key initiatives and his ongoing initiatives--so it was as a matter of fact.
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Bloc
Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC
I do not understand. One of the persons who quit obtained a $13,000 performance bonus. Is that correct?
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Deputy Commissioner, Human Resources, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
This was in the year prior to his resignation.
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Bloc
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Deputy Commissioner, Human Resources, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
After he was suspended--
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Bloc
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Deputy Commissioner, Human Resources, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
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Deputy Commissioner, Human Resources, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
The bonus was awarded in the years prior to any allegations of wrongdoing having been put forward. That was when he received that bonus.
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Conservative
John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
It seems to me this fund was managed as part of the RCMP within their normal confines. Originally it wasn't a separate fund with a separate manager or separate accounting; it was all within the financial management of the RCMP.
Am I correct on that, Commissioner?
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Commissioner, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
It went to an outsource during this period of time.
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Conservative
John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB
But prior to that the fund was managed in-house by the RCMP.
