Public Accounts Committee on April 18th, 2007

Evidence of meeting #50 for Public Accounts in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was george.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Chapter 9, Pension and Insurance Administration - Royal Canadian Mounted Police of the November 2006 Report of the Auditor General of Canada

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee Mr. Georges Etoka

Rosalie Burton Former Director General of Human Resources, Royal Canadian Mounted Police, As an Individual

Commissioner Barbara George Deputy Commissioner, Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Paul Roy Ottawa Police Service (Retired), As an Individual

Sergeant Mike Frizzell Staff Sergeant, Strategic and Operational Support, National Child Exploitation Coordination Centre, Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Superintendent Fraser Macaulay Chief Superintendent, Royal Canadian Mounted Police

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Conservative

John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

Mr. Chairman, I'm going to say no, and I'll tell you why. We're talking about boxes of documents that are not translated, 99% chance. You can't come in here with boxes of documents and quote from them ad hoc when other committee members can't even have access to them.

If the steering committee wants to bring this gentleman forward, I don't have a problem, but let's translate all the documents before they come here so that everybody has access to them. Let's do it properly through the steering committee.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy

Okay, Mr. Williams, you've made your point.

Mr. Wrzesnewskyj—

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

I have a point of order.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy

I'm not going to go to debate. You do not have unanimous consent.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

On a point of order, actually, I don't think we have a problem with Mr. Wrzesnewskyj's motion, if I've heard right. The only stipulation is that—

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Liberal

Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

It be translated.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

—the relevant documents be translated. So if we can just add that, is that a friendly amendment?

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Liberal

Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

It's a friendly amendment.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

Okay, there we go.

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Conservative

John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

Before he comes.

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Liberal

Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

Yes. It's a friendly amendment, Chair.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

It's a friendly amendment, accepted.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy

Well, it's not what Mr. Williams said, but I mean—

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Liberal

Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

That's the way I understood it, Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy

Well, he said no. I asked whether there was unanimous consent, and he said no.

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Conservative

John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

I have no problem with the witness coming forward, Mr. Chairman, provided the documents are translated and distributed before he gets here.

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Liberal

Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

Wonderful.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy

Is it a friendly amendment?

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Liberal

Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

Absolutely.

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

Okay, there we go.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy

Okay, does Mr. Wrzesnewskyj have unanimous consent to put the motion, with the amendment?

Okay, all are in agreement.

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Bloc

Jean-Yves Laforest Bloc Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

That's with the translated documents? Agreed.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy

I'll call the vote on the motion.

(Motion agreed to)

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy

In closing, I want to thank the witnesses again. I know it has been a quick ending and I know this is a difficult issue for a lot of people, so I want to thank you for your appearance here.

The meeting is adjourned.