Evidence of meeting #66 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Sandro Giammaria  Counsel, Department of Justice
Phaedra Glushek  Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Rachel Mainville-Dale  Acting Director General, Firearms Policy, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Kellie Paquette  Director General, Canadian Firearms Program, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Rob Mackinnon  Director, Canadian Firearms Program, Royal Canadian Mounted Police

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Ms. Dancho, go ahead.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

I believe we went through this before. This might have been in November. We had quite a big kerfuffle at committee about reading amendments before they were moved.

Has that changed? Are we allowed to do that? I have a question on the firearm parts issues, so if we're allowed to—

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

For these particular amendments, the confidentiality has been waived.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Okay. That's my mistake.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

In general, the amendments that people submit are confidential until that's waived or until they move them.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Thank you.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

For all of the new amendments we've added in the last whatever...the confidentiality has been waived.

Ms. Michaud, you have the floor.

4:25 p.m.

Bloc

Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC

I was wondering if the removal of confidentiality only applied to new government amendments or to all new amendments.

You are confirming that it only applies to government amendments.

Very well, thank you.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Go ahead, Mr. Melillo.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Eric Melillo Conservative Kenora, ON

Thank you, Chair.

I want to quickly respond to my friend from the NDP.

I think there's a lack of clarity throughout this bill in terms of how it will impact indigenous peoples and indigenous hunting rights, as I've mentioned. I'm not asking him to take my word for it. I'm telling him that this is what I've been hearing from first nation leaders and chiefs from across the 42 first nations I represent. I'm going to continue to listen to them instead of listening to Mr. Julian.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Thank you.

Are there any further interventions?

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Mr. Chair, we'd like a recorded vote, please.

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 11; nays 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

That brings us to G-21, which is in the name of Mr. Noormohamed.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Carrying on the important work of getting ghost guns off our streets, we are amending this provision of the code to add the words “firearm parts”. It's going to ensure there's consistency and that those who are thought to be in possession of unauthorized parts will forfeit those parts if a judge finds it so desirable.

We're hoping that everyone will move forward to pass this quickly and unanimously because it's an important tool in the arsenal of law enforcement.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Thank you.

Is there any discussion?

Go ahead, Ms. Dancho.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Thank you.

Mr. Giammaria, you mentioned there was another amendment coming for this provision. Now that I understand we can talk about all government amendments, can you specify which one that is?

4:30 p.m.

Counsel, Department of Justice

Sandro Giammaria

Pardon me, Chair. If I could have a moment's indulgence, please....

May 10th, 2023 / 4:30 p.m.

Rachel Mainville-Dale Acting Director General, Firearms Policy, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

It is G-42.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

I'm sorry. What did you say?

4:30 p.m.

Acting Director General, Firearms Policy, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

G-42 is in reference to every other amendment concerning firearm parts.

4:30 p.m.

Acting Director General, Firearms Policy, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rachel Mainville-Dale

There are several amendments throughout the package that refer to firearm parts. Some are consequential in the Criminal Code and others are with regard to requiring a licence to acquire and import a firearm part. The one on licensing is G-42.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Okay. Is G-20 one of the ones that are in reference to G-42?

4:30 p.m.

Acting Director General, Firearms Policy, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rachel Mainville-Dale

No. G-20 is for the Criminal Code and it would allow a judge to issue an order, when there are reasonable grounds to believe there's a public safety risk, to forfeit the firearm part, and to issue a weapons prohibition order against the person from whom it was being seized for up to five years.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

As a point of order, we've done G-20. We're on G-21.