House of Commons Hansard #162 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was illness.

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Parks CanadaPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

William Stevenson Conservative Yellowhead, AB

Mr. Speaker, it is always an honour to stand for the people of Yellowhead. Today I rise to present a petition, signed by more than 11,000 Canadians, calling on the government to immediately reverse Parks Canada's decision to end the search and rescue dog program in Banff National Park. This decision sparked widespread public outrage and attracted attention locally, nationally and in international media. For decades, these highly trained dogs have saved lives, located missing people and supported avalanche rescues.

One dog, Leroy, alone located 57 missing people in just seven years and has received three different commendation medals of bravery. With the avalanche season approaching, Canadians are rightly concerned about the consequences of eliminating this life-saving program.

I have also sent letters urging the Minister of Environment to reverse this decision. I hope the minister acts on the letters faster than it takes for the government to formally respond to the petition. The petitioners call on the government to immediately reverse this decision and restore canine search and rescue capabilities in Canadian national parks.

Immigration and CitizenshipPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

4:20 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Mr. Speaker, I rise to table three petitions. The first petition is signed by 20,634 people who are calling on the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship to increase the annual permanent residence admissions target for 2027 onward from the current 380,000 to approximately 415,000, representing 1% of Canada's population, and, with this increase, to allocate sufficient annual quota to the humanitarian pathways for Hong Kong, Sudanese and Ukrainian PR applicants and to clear the backlog of the 62,000 pending applications within three years.

The petitioners also say that Canada has a long-standing humanitarian tradition of assisting people affected by crises through special immigration pathways, yet applicants in these humanitarian pathways face processing wait times of over 10 years, with only 4,000 admissions allocated for 2027-28. These are applicants who are already living, working and studying in Canada.

Granting PR now would reduce the temporary residence population and would not create significant new demand for housing, education or health care. I urge the minister to heed the call.

Artificial Intelligence Data CentresPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

4:20 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Mr. Speaker, the second petition is signed by 38,455 people and was initiated by Vancouver residents who are concerned that AI data centres are being built with high secrecy and low community involvement. The petitioners agree that AI data centres are known for noise and water pollution and for straining water reservoirs and energy grids. They are concerned about AI's impact on jobs, digital sovereignty and other negative social implications.

They call on the Government of Canada to stop all incentives, subsidies and expedited permits for AI data centres, as well as revoke permits and supports for any AI data centres not sought out by the local community and not put through a rigorous vetting and transparent and democratic local approval process. They call for a public study on the unintended negative impacts associated with AI data centres in Canada and elsewhere and call for AI products to be subject to genuine taxes and enforceable regulations of safety, transparency, and power and water use.

IranPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

4:20 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Mr. Speaker, the third petition, signed by 1,048 people, is about the tragic attack on the Shajareh Tayyebeh Primary School in Iran. They know that the February 28, 2026, missile attacks on the elementary school killed at least 165 school children and constituted a grave violation of international humanitarian law. They call on the Government of Canada to issue a formal and unambiguous condemnation of the attack. They call on the government to suspend military aid and related assistance to the U.S. and Israel during the current conflict pending a full and independent investigation, and to table in Parliament a full accounting of Canada's relationship with the United States and Israel regarding this conflict.

They further call on the Government of Canada to work with the UN, the ICC and relevant bodies to ensure accountability, and for the Minister of Foreign Affairs to publish a formal compliance assessment of current and pending arms transfers to the U.S. and Israel.

CondominiumsPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Aaron Gunn Conservative North Island—Powell River, BC

Mr. Speaker, I rise today on behalf of thousands of petitioners in my riding of North Island—Powell River who are calling on the Liberal government, now that there is a new Conservative provincial government in B.C., to abandon their condo billionaire bailout, a $1.5-billion plan to use taxpayer money in British Columbia to purchase unsold condos, instead of their developer friends having to lower prices and sell at a loss.

The petitioners are especially concerned that this plan would essentially use their money to artificially inflate what is already one of the least affordable housing markets in the world while lining the pockets of billionaires, many of whom have close ties to the Liberal Party and the current Minister of Housing.

They also express their frustration that these condos are already built and that this plan would therefore create zero new units of housing. A lack of transparency remains as to who lobbied for the policy, where it came from and who exactly stands to benefit the most.

Questions Passed as Orders for ReturnRoutine Proceedings

4:25 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, if the government's response to Questions Nos. 1410, 1411, 1412, 1413, 1414, 1415, 1416, 1417, 1418, 1419, 1420 and 1421 could be made orders for return, these returns would be tabled in an electronic format immediately.

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The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

Is it agreed?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, I ask that all other questions be allowed to stand.

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The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

Is it agreed?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

Motions for PapersRoutine Proceedings

4:25 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I would ask that all notices of motions for the production of papers be allowed to stand.

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The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

Is it agreed?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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4:25 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

It is my duty pursuant to Standing Order 38, to inform the House that the questions to be raised tonight at the time of adjournment are as follows: the hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, Families, Children and Social Services Development; the hon. member for Regina—Lewvan, the Economy; and the hon. member for Foothills, Agriculture and Agri-Food.

The House resumed from November 3 consideration of Bill C-31, A second Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on November 4, 2025, as reported (with amendments) from the committee, and of the motions in Group No. 1.

Bill C-31 Budget 2025 Implementation Act, No. 2Government Orders

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Dawson Conservative Miramichi—Grand Lake, NB

Mr. Speaker, it is always an honour and a pleasure to stand in the House and speak on behalf of the people of Miramichi—Grand Lake.

The Prime Minister fancies himself as an economist. He has the degrees. He has spent years telling Canadians that he understands how money works. Since being elected, many Canadians actually think he is a travel blogger, apparently. He loves the way bubbles from champagne tickle his nose, and he has a very refined palate for caviar and fine foods, but as he is a man who apparently understands money, I have a simple question for him: Has he ever read Milton Friedman?

Friedman had a straightforward way of explaining why governments so often waste money. He said there are four ways to spend it. First, if we spend our own money on ourselves, we care equally about the price and the quality. Second, if we spend our own money on someone else, we care about the price but not so much about the quality. Third, if we spend someone else's money on ourselves, we care about the quality but not so much about the price. Fourth, if we spend someone else's money on someone else, we do not care much about the price and do not care much about the quality. That last one is the government. When it comes to defence procurement in this country, that is exactly what we have been watching with the Liberal government.

Canada is known for a lot of things, like hockey, maple syrup and politeness that sometimes goes too far. We are not known for the success of our bureaucratic defence procurement. If we asked any contractor who has ever tried to get a job done on time and on budget, we would learn pretty quickly that the more layers of people we have spending other people's money, the more things go wrong.

In this country, Liberals have spent 11 years proving that point. Fighter jets are still not settled, helicopters have become a national punchline and submarines do not exist. Even the Snowbirds were flying aircraft older than most of the people watching them, and they are now grounded until sometime in 2030.

This is not news; this is the Liberal record. Now the Liberals want to fix it by creating another agency and another minister, with broader powers to sole-source contracts and skip competitions. They want to take the most inefficient way to spend money and give it a new name and a bigger chequebook.

Division 16 of the bill would hand that unnamed minister the authority to sole-source almost anything that can be tied to national defence or national security. The list of exceptions is long. It includes urgent operational requirements; supporting a sector of the economy; sensitive technology; research and innovation; agreements with other governments, probably the countries where our Prime Minister also holds citizenship; and a catch-all that lets regulations add still more reasons. Once these powers are in place, the competition can be skipped and the supplier can be excluded on security grounds without a full explanation or a real appeal.

The bill would also remove the ordinary consequences if a competition that should have been run is not run. At the same time, it would allow the government to buy shares in corporations and replace directors and officers. This is not a minor technical change. This is power to take control of a company when it suits the government of the day. It sounds like socialism to me. There would be no serious requirement to report back to the House on how the powers are used, no clear obligation to tell Parliament when a national security exception is invoked and no meaningful check on loans, advance payments, guarantees or grants.

I am sure the Prime Minister's friends over at Brookfield Asset Management are grinning like the butcher's dog. I can just imagine the world of opportunities that the bill would open for those who are fortunate enough to be in business with the Prime Minister.

There is an old line attributed to Churchill: “Gentlemen, we have run out of money. Now we have to think.” Under the Liberal government, we ran out of taxpayers' money a long time ago, but the difference is that the government is still not thinking. It is just adding more people to spend other people's money on other people and calling it a success.

The Defence Investment Agency has already been operating for over a year. It has held signing ceremonies. It has announced preferred partners. It has not delivered a single piece of equipment to the Canadian Armed Forces. When its own CEO reportedly considered stepping down because the bureaucracy was still too slow, that should have been the end of the argument. We do not fix bureaucracy by giving it a new letterhead and a larger budget.

In my experience as a construction worker and a contractor, in my line of work, if a job keeps going over budget and past deadline, we do not solve it by hiring more project managers who have never swung a hammer. We put on our work boots, roll up our sleeves, figure out what is broken and fix it. We lead by example.

The Canadian Armed Forces do not need another layer of bureaucracy deciding what they get, when they get it and what the company affiliated with Brookfield gets in the contract. Our men and women in the military need equipment on time and at a price that makes sense, with someone who can be held accountable when it does not happen. This bill would not do that. It would build a department around a problem and make it official.

There was a famous line spoken by an American sailor at Pearl Harbor, spoken by our allies, I might add. Aboard the USS New Orleans, a man said, “Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.” The line was celebrated throughout World War II and soldiers sang songs about it, because it rang true. In 2026, under the Liberal government, our soldiers now have neither of the two things that success in battle requires.

I asked a question in the House yesterday about the forced closure of St. Luke's Chapel at CFB Gagetown. Canadians and veterans' groups have been told that there is no room for the Lord or for prayer in our military. Now the Liberals are keeping the ammunition from them as well. If the Liberal government keeps going, we are going to have to train our military on fighting with rocks and sticks. I can only speak for myself, but let me tell the House that I am ashamed of sitting in the House while we treat the brave men and women who serve this nation and put themselves in harm's way with such disrespect.

Conservatives have been clear about what we support: one point of accountability for defence procurement and a special secretariat in the Privy Council Office so that military contracts are treated as the priority they are, not another agency, not another minister with a new title and not a CEO paid more than the Prime Minister with no background in national defence who is secretly shuffling contracts to Liberal insiders. Conservatives will fight to get the sailors, soldiers and aviators of the Canadian Armed Forces the equipment they need, with efficiency and accountability and consistent with the interests of Canadian security, not Liberal insider advantage.

This bill fails the test. It would expand control. It would reduce transparency. It would treat the Canadian Armed Forces as a problem to be managed by another bureaucracy rather than a force to be properly equipped and deserving of the respect and thanks of a grateful nation.

The first duty of any government is defence of the realm. That duty is not fulfilled by creating more agencies; it is fulfilled by equipping the people who stand on the wall. That duty would not be fulfilled by this bill, so Conservatives will not support it. We will stand with the men and women who have to use this equipment, not the system that keeps failing to deliver it to them.

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4:35 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, that speech failed to meet reality, quite frankly. It was off on so many points, and I wish I had the time to legitimately critique the member's comments.

The member started off by talking about credentials. I will compare the credentials of our Prime Minister to the credentials of the leader of the Conservative Party any day, as Canadians did in the last federal election. Then he went on to talk about our men and women in the forces. Is he serious? The Prime Minister, in his first six months, achieved the 2% target. We have seen more people putting in applications to be members of the forces this last year than in the last 30 years.

In many ways, we are moving forward. The Crown corporation he was referring to would ensure more accountability, more efficiency and more transparency.

The member needs to get outside of the Conservative—

Bill C-31 Budget 2025 Implementation Act, No. 2Government Orders

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The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

The hon. member for Miramichi—Grand Lake.

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4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Dawson Conservative Miramichi—Grand Lake, NB

Mr. Speaker, the member opposite asked about accountability. Let us talk about accountability and what this bill would do. It would hand an unnamed minister the power to sole-source almost anything tied to defence and national security, 13 different reasons to skip a competition and the ability to exclude a bidder on security grounds without a full explanation, with no serious requirements to come back to the House and report how those powers are used. At the same time, it would allow the government to buy shares in corporations and replace directors and officers. That is not a minor technical change. That is the power to take control of a company when it suits the government of the day. It sounds like socialism to me.

In my line of work, if someone wants to spend other people's money with almost no questions asked, we do not call that efficiency; we call that a problem. The Canadian Armed Forces do not need more unaccountable power in the hands of one minister. They need equipment that arrives on time, with someone to hold—

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4:35 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

Questions and comments, the hon. member for Gaspésie—Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Listuguj.

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4:35 p.m.

Bloc

Alexis Deschênes Bloc Gaspésie—Les Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Listuguj, QC

Mr. Speaker, I have a question for my colleague. We can agree that Bill C‑31 covers a great many things. There is one part that particularly bothers me. It is that public servants will be allowed to make mistakes. One of the divisions of Bill C‑31 introduces a new form of immunity. What does that immunity mean? It means that if a citizen has been wronged, they cannot sue a public servant, an official or an employee if the mistake was made in good faith. That means it allows incompetence, it allows mediocrity, and citizens are being stripped of their rights.

What does my colleague think about that?

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4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Dawson Conservative Miramichi—Grand Lake, NB

Mr. Speaker, the member wants to know why we oppose this agency. He should look at the Liberal record. Fighter jets took decades and are still not settled. The Snowbirds are grounded until the 2030s.

Canada is known for a lot of things. We are not known for success in Liberal defence procurement. The Defence Investment Agency has been operating for over a year, with signing ceremonies and preferred partner announcements, but not a single new piece of equipment has been delivered to the Canadian Armed Forces.

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4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, we have one more sleep until the November budget. It is coming up tomorrow, and I believe Canadians will see a continuation of what the Prime Minister and every member of the Liberal caucus have been pushing forward: dealing first-hand with affordability, supporting the Canadian Forces and building a stronger and healthier Canadian economy, one that works for all Canadians. Bill C-31 is a good example of the types of things the government can do.

Does the member believe there is anything the government can do to support the Canadian economy outside of stepping aside and doing nothing?

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4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Dawson Conservative Miramichi—Grand Lake, NB

Mr. Speaker, this bill would not improve value for money. Let us go back to the basics. The Liberals do not care much about price. They do not care much about quality. That is the Liberal mentality. That is exactly what this bill would expand, with more powers to sole-source, more ability to skip competitions, more people in the middle spending other people's money on other people, and almost no reporting back to Parliament. They are just adding more people to spend more of other people's money and calling it reform. That is not a plan. That is a problem.