Evidence of meeting #14 for Justice and Human Rights in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was c-9.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Breese  Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Wells  Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Ali  Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

She can speak to it; she can't—

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Mr. Mantle, go ahead.

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I think if you seek it and you listen to the voice vote of committee members, you will see—

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Mr. Mantle, I can—

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

—we have unanimous consent to move to Bill C-14.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

—take these motions from people who are regular members of the committee. You're allowed to sit at the table and participate.

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

Mr. Chair, I'd like to finish my point of order.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

I understand, but you're trying to introduce a motion.

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

I am not, Mr. Chair. I'm seeking unanimous consent. It is not a motion.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

You cannot do that. You're allowed to participate and make submissions on what we're talking about. Only regular members can do what you're trying to do.

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Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

I'm allowed to make a point of order, and I seek unanimous consent.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Mr. Mantle, your request is denied. It is out of order.

Ms. Anstey, you have the floor.

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Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

I challenge your decision, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

Amarjeet Gill Conservative Brampton West, ON

I have a point of order.

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

I challenge your decision, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

You can't do that either.

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Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

I challenge your decision, then.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Okay, that's your right.

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Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

I'd like you to put your decision on the record, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Just to be clear on what the Conservatives have done, I'll note that Mr. Mantle has tried to seek unanimous consent, which, even if he were a regular member, he was not allowed to do because he was doing it on a point of order. I denied it. Mr. Lawton is now challenging that decision.

We'll take a vote on that.

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Yes.

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

I would just like clarity—

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

It's a dilatory vote.