Evidence of meeting #14 for Justice and Human Rights in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was c-9.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Breese  Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Wells  Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Ali  Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

It is three meetings, including clause-by-clause, and we will continue clause-by-clause until we finish the study on Bill C-14, or however long the meeting will take.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Go ahead, Mr. Lawton.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

Thank you.

I would like to move an amendment. I'm sorry, but we just got the motion, so I'm trying to do this in real time.

I propose amending “that the committee allocate three meetings to the consideration of Bill C-14, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Youth Criminal Justice Act and the National Defence Act (bail and sentencing), beginning at its next meeting” to add that one of those meetings be dedicated to hearing testimony from the Minister of Justice.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

I'm going to suggest that we suspend for just two minutes so that people can absorb what you just said.

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Mr. Chair, can we have a written version of Ms. Lattanzio’s motion? I have it on my computer, but do you have a hard copy?

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

No.

Okay, I just suggested that we suspend for a moment, but the members to my right don't see a need to do that.

Mr. Fortin, are you okay with what Mr. Lawton just proposed?

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

I'm sorry, but I didn't catch exactly what he said. That's why I asked for a paper motion that we can read and think about. This is just verbal.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Let's suspend for a moment and give you an opportunity to absorb the motion.

We're suspended.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

I call the meeting back to order.

We have Ms. Lattanzio's motion and Mr. Lawton's amendment. We'll have to vote on Mr. Lawton's amendment, and then we'll vote on the language of the main motion.

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

For clarity’s sake, could you read it in French so that Mr. Fortin has it in French?

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

No, that’s fine. Thank you, Mr. Housefather.

Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC

Good. Thank you.

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

However, I have a question, Mr. Chair.

The vote we are about to take is to authorize Ms. Lattanzio to table her motion. Is that correct? It does not concern the substance of the motion. We are not there yet. Correct me if I am wrong, but you need unanimous consent for Ms. Lattanzio to table her motion.

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

It’s already been done.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Unanimous consent was already granted to Ms. Lattanzio—

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Okay. Perfect.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

—to introduce the motion. She tabled the motion, and Mr. Lawton then proposed an amendment. We're going to vote on Mr. Lawton's amendment, and then assuming that passes—well, regardless—we'll vote on Ms. Lattanzio's motion.

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Let's have a vote on Mr. Lawton's amendment.

Do you want to read it out again, just so everybody is clear?

The Clerk

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

It would be inserted after the words “its next meeting” and would read as follows: “and that one of those meetings be the appearance of the Minister of Justice”. That's the end of the amendment.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

We'll go to a vote.

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 9; nays 0)

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

We will now proceed to a vote on the motion as amended.

(Motion as amended agreed to: yeas 8; nays 1)

The motion is carried, so that means on Wednesday of this week, we will proceed to dealing with Bill C-14. Any amendments have to be submitted by Monday at noon.

I adjourn this meeting.