Evidence of meeting #14 for Justice and Human Rights in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was c-9.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Breese  Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Wells  Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Ali  Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Okay. We'll put it to a vote.

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Mr. Chair, before it goes to a vote—

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Ms. Lattanzio, go ahead.

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Thank you for ceding the floor to me.

First of all, thank you for your intervention, Mr. Brock. I would also like to take the opportunity to wish—

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

I have a point of order.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

I'm sorry, Ms. Lattanzio. Mr. Lawton has a point of order.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

As I understand it, it's a dilatory motion, so there is to be no debate on it before we vote.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

You're correct.

I thought I'd give her a moment if it was a point of order type of comment. You're quite right. We have to put it to a vote.

We'll go to a vote.

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Mr. Chair, can I ask for a suspension for a couple of minutes?

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Yes. We'll suspend for a moment.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

I call this meeting back to order.

We will vote on Mr. Brock's dilatory motion.

(Motion negatived: nays 5; yeas 4)

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Go ahead, Ms. Lattanzio.

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Mr. Chair, I'd like to move a motion, and I seek unanimous consent to move it.

Would you like me to read it?

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Yes, please.

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Before I read the motion, I would like to make a few comments.

We're supporting moving Bill C-14 forward because it is fundamentally about keeping Canadians safe. This bill would strengthen our bail system, hold repeat and violent offenders to account and help ensure that individuals who pose a real risk are not released back into the communities where they have caused harm. Bill C-14 responds directly to what Canadians have asked us to do: It supports victims and gives communities peace of mind.

As we move into this new session, Canadians expect Parliament to rise above partisan lines and focus on delivering real results. That doesn't mean we will always agree on everything, but it does mean we should look for opportunities to work constructively where we can. Advancing Bill C-14 is one of those opportunities, and it reflects shared concerns about safety and accountability. It's also a chance for Parliament to show that it can act responsibly and decisively for people. This is what the Minister of Justice is seeking. This is what the Prime Minister said this morning.

At the same time, I want to be clear that Bill C-9 and Bill C-16 are also important pieces of legislation. Our work on those bills continues and they remain a priority, but when there is a clear opportunity to move forward on legislation such as Bill C-14 that strengthens public safety and reinforces confidence in our justice system, we should take it. This is about making Parliament work, focusing on outcomes and focusing and delivering on our responsibility to Canadians. That is exactly why we will always be in support of moving our own legislation forward, Bill C-14.

With that, our motion reads as follows—

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

I'm sorry, Ms. Lattanzio, but you'll need unanimous consent to move the motion before you read the motion.

Do we have unanimous consent for Ms. Lattanzio to introduce her motion?

Some hon. members

Agreed.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

You have unanimous consent, so please read the motion.

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The motion reads as follows. I will read the English version.

That the committee pause clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-9, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (hate propaganda, hate crime and access to religious or cultural places); that the committee allocate three meetings to the consideration of Bill C-14, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Youth Criminal Justice Act and the National Defence Act (bail and sentencing), beginning at its next meeting; that the committee not adjourn its third meeting on Bill C-14 until clause-by-clause consideration of the bill is complete; and that at the meeting following the completion of clause-by-clause of Bill C-14, the committee resume clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-9.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Thank you, Ms. Lattanzio.

The motion has been circulated to all members in both official languages.

Go ahead, Mr. Brassard.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

John Brassard Conservative Barrie South—Innisfil, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I have no comment. I will ask for a recorded vote on Ms. Lattanzio's motion, please.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Thank you, Mr. Brassard.

Go ahead, Mr. Lawton.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

Could I just ask a clarifying question? Is it three meetings and then clause-by-clause, or three meetings and the third resolves into clause-by-clause?

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

May I respond, Chair?

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Please go ahead.