Justice Committee on Dec. 9th, 2025

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

I do, and I'm asking for unanimous consent, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

I don't think it's on point. We're dealing with clause-by-clause. Mr. Chang's point of order is accurate, and I agree with him. We're going to move on to clause-by-clause—

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

I challenge that.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Okay, and that's your right, but just let me finish. I'm going to then give the floor to Mr. Fortin to continue discussion on that.

That's my ruling.

[Andrew Lawton, Conservative, Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON]

You guys can just give consent. Do you not want to do Bill C-14?

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

This isn't a debate, Mr. Lawton

[Anthony Housefather, Liberal, Mount Royal, QC]

You clearly don't—

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Hold on—

[Anthony Housefather, Liberal, Mount Royal, QC]

—want to do Bill C-9.

They don't care about the communities that are hurt by Bill C-9—

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Gentlemen, please. To all members on both sides, please speak when I give you the floor and not otherwise. Mr. Housefather and Mr. Lawton, that applies to everybody.

I would ask that you respect each other and respect the interpreters. Don't talk over each other. I will give everybody an opportunity to speak when it's appropriate, but do not speak at the same time when it's not your turn.

I've made my ruling on Mr. Chang's point of order.

Mr. Brock, you are challenging my ruling.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

That's correct.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Okay, go ahead, Mr. Clerk.

[The Clerk of the Committee, Jean-François Lafleur]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

On the question of whether the chair's decision shall be sustained, we will go to a vote.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 5; nays 4)

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

Clearly, the Liberals do not want to prioritize Bill C-14.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Mr. Brock, you do not have the floor. If you will respect the chair and respect other members of the committee, when it's appropriate for you to speak, as with others, I will give you the floor. I would ask that you don't do it otherwise.

Mr. Fortin, we are on your amendment, BQ-2.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair. Could you just clarify what the ruling was? Is it that a member can't bring forward a request for unanimous consent motion?

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

My ruling was that it was not relevant to the amendment we were discussing.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Is your ruling that relevance is required for a request for unanimous consent?

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Mr. Genuis, we went through this in the last meeting. The ruling was made, it was challenged and it was upheld.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I'm just asking what it was.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Mr. Fortin, you have the floor.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I'm just asking what it was, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

I've answered the question twice now.

Mr. Fortin, the floor is yours.

[Rhéal Fortin, Bloc, Rivière-du-Nord, QC]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

We have now reached amendment BQ‑2, if I am not mistaken.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

That's correct.