Evidence of meeting #14 for Justice and Human Rights in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was c-9.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal James Maloney
My ruling, to be clear, was that it was an inappropriate time to move that motion. If you, Mr. Brock or others want to move a motion at an appropriate time, that's different, but we have already moved on from that issue.
If you have other submissions on this amendment, the floor is yours. If not, we can move on to Mr. Gill.
Conservative
Roman Baber Conservative York Centre, ON
Could you please clarify for me what is an appropriate time and what is not an appropriate time?
Liberal
Conservative
Amarjeet Gill Conservative Brampton West, ON
Thank you, Chair.
I would like to talk about what I am hearing in the riding I represent.
Every single person I speak to talks about how we should be looking after Bill C-14 first, because bail and sentencing are very important for all of us. We all agree, to a point, that this is legislation we had to put forward.
Now we are delaying, and every single day we delay causes problems in the neighbourhoods, on the streets and—
Liberal
Liberal
The Chair Liberal James Maloney
No, it isn't, because you're talking about a different piece of legislation.
I'm imploring you: If you want to talk about Bill C-9, which is what we're here debating, please do so. I'll give you all the time you like. We have unlimited resources, as far as I'm concerned.
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal James Maloney
You haven't addressed it yet, so in these circumstances, Mr. Chang's—
Conservative
Amarjeet Gill Conservative Brampton West, ON
If you keep interjecting with these kinds of points of order, I will not be able to speak.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal James Maloney
I've deemed Mr. Chang's point of order to be appropriate. I'm going to give you back the floor. If you want to talk about this bill and this amendment, please do so.
Conservative
Amarjeet Gill Conservative Brampton West, ON
It is important for us to understand what we are hearing at the ground level and in reality. We have to work accordingly. Our main purpose is to look after what people need at this point in time, whether it's Bill C-9 or Bill C-14
We all know that extortion calls are coming every single day. Gun shootings are happening every single day. People are scared. Families are being targeted. Businesses are threatened. These are the things we have to look after.
I suggest strongly that we should be looking after Bill C-14 right now. We have to support the motion presented by my colleague Mr. Brock. We have to move forward on that one.
Liberal
Liberal
The Chair Liberal James Maloney
I agree.
Mr. Gill, you're still not talking about this bill or, more specifically, this amendment.
Conservative
Amarjeet Gill Conservative Brampton West, ON
Mr. Chair, if that is the case, I'll cede my time and move on.
Actually, we should not be stopping anyone from speaking when we are talking about important legislation that needs to be discussed at this committee meeting.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal James Maloney
Thank you, Mr. Gill.
Are there any other further submissions on Mr. Fortin's proposed amendment? No.
Before we put it to a vote, let me remind you of what I said at the outset: If BQ-2 is adopted, LIB-1, CPC-6 and CPC-7 cannot be moved due to a line conflict.
We'll put it to a vote now.
(Amendment negatived: nays 8; yeas 1)
Thank you.
We're now moving on to LIB-1. I will give the floor to Mr. Housefather.
Liberal
Anthony Housefather Liberal Mount Royal, QC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
This is a simple amendment. The Hindu communities and some other communities, like the Jain community, view the swastika as a holy symbol in their culture. We can refer to the Nazi hakenkreuz, which is the symbol used by the Nazis, without using the word “swastika” in the English version of the bill.
All my amendment does is remove the word “swastika” from the English version of the bill. I hope this is something we can all agree on given the community's representations.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal James Maloney
Thank you, Mr. Housefather.
Are there any other submissions on that? No.
Let's move on to a vote on LIB-1.
(Amendment agreed to: yeas 9; nays 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
That takes us to CPC-6, which I believe is from Mr. Brock.
I'm sorry, but just before you get the floor, Mr. Brock, if CPC-6 is adopted, CPC-7 cannot be moved due to a line conflict.
Mr. Brock, do you want to speak to it?
Conservative
