Evidence of meeting #14 for Justice and Human Rights in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was c-9.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Breese  Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Wells  Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Ali  Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Dean Allison Conservative Niagara West, ON

I'm seeking unanimous consent. Thank you for the clarification.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Do we have unanimous consent?

Some hon. members

No.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Dean Allison Conservative Niagara West, ON

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Thank you very much, Mr. Allison.

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

I would like to seek unanimous consent to send Bill C-14, a very important piece of legislation, back to the House, as the hearings on C-9 are going to go on and on. It's quite obvious that we'll never be able to get to C-14. We don't have the collaboration of the members opposite.

An hon. member

No, you don't.

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

It's quite clear. You heard it there, Mr. Chair. We do not have that collaboration, so it is easy to understand that we will not be able to get through Bill C-9, and if we don't get through Bill C-9, we won't be able to get through Bill C-14.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Thank you, Ms. Lattanzio.

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

I seek unanimous consent to send Bill C-14 back to the House for third reading so that we can deliberate on it.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON

Chair, may I be recognized on Ms. Lattanzio's unanimous consent?

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Do we have unanimous consent?

An hon. member

No.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON

Mr. Chair, can I clarify?

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

We do not have unanimous consent. Thank you.

Ms. Kronis.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Roman Baber Conservative York Centre, ON

I have a point of order.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Go ahead, Mr. Baber.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Roman Baber Conservative York Centre, ON

We have had some experience, in the last few weeks, of trying to work collaboratively. I hear Ms. Lattanzio and the desire to go on with Bill C-14. That's precisely what—

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Is this debate?

Here's what we're going to do going forward. People are going to state what their point of order is, and then, if they have further submissions.... I don't want to spend the day listening to long submissions, with members saying, “Oh, I'm going to get to a point of order eventually.” I want to run this efficiently.

What is your point of order, Mr. Baber? State that up front.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Roman Baber Conservative York Centre, ON

I am content to take a break, if we need to suspend. We can have a conversation with Ms. Lattanzio about moving on with Bill C-14. We need to hear from witnesses.

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Let's send it to the House. That was my motion.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Roman Baber Conservative York Centre, ON

I propose that we have a discussion about moving on with Bill C-14, the bail bill.

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Let's finalize Bill C-9.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

This is not productive. I think—

Patricia Lattanzio Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

We can do Bill C-9 and go to Bill C-14.