Evidence of meeting #14 for Justice and Human Rights in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was c-9.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Breese  Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Wells  Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Ali  Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice

11 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

That's why I called you Mr. Viersen.

11 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

I would like it to be moved over.

11 p.m.

Liberal

Wade Chang Liberal Burnaby Central, BC

What are you doing?

11 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

I'm not Wade Chang.

11 p.m.

Liberal

Wade Chang Liberal Burnaby Central, BC

I'm a regular member of this committee.

11 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Mr. Viersen, I addressed you as “Mr. Viersen”.

11 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Thank you, sir.

11 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Let's not make a mockery of the proceedings. You have the floor.

11 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

I'm not making a mockery. I'm just noting that my name is not in front of me. This says “Wade Chang”.

11 p.m.

Liberal

Anju Dhillon Liberal Dorval—Lachine—LaSalle, QC

Then slide over to your colleagues.

11 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

That is not my name. When it shows—

11 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

We've established that now. You've known that for your whole life. We now all know that, and so does everybody watching the committee now.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

11 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

If you want to address the amendment at hand, do so. Otherwise, I'll move to the next speaker.

11:05 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Chair, on a point of order, is this another matter of privilege? Could you take this under advisement as well?

11:05 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Mr. Chair, I appreciate that you know who I am and what my name is. I'm appreciative that you recognize me.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Now your name is in front of you, so you'll make no mistake yourself. Go ahead. Just keep looking at it and reminding us.

Please move on to the amendment.

11:05 p.m.

Conservative

Jacob Mantle Conservative York—Durham, ON

If we're supposed to take this seriously, so are you, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

I'm trying to.

11:05 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Mr. Chair, with the absence of my name, it would look like Mr. Chang was speaking, because I don't know who Mr. Chang is or who I am. I was just trying to remove his name from my shot. You will notice that he is not in the shot, but I am.

11:05 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON

The name still is.

11:05 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

My name is now there. We should be good to go. It was never my intention—

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Mr. Viersen, this is very enlightening, but please get to the point. Your name is there. We know you name. Everybody knows your name.

Get to the point, please.

11:05 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Mr. Chair, it was never my intention to raise this. I was merely trying to move his name out of the picture shot, and that started an argument.

Wade Chang Liberal Burnaby Central, BC

You did it in a very rude manner.