Justice Committee on Dec. 9th, 2025

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

I'm going to suspend for a few minutes.

[Jacob Mantle, Conservative, York—Durham, ON]

This is directly on my—

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

I've had a request that we suspend for personal reasons, Mr. Mantle.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

We'll call the meeting back to order.

Mr. Mantle, you still have the floor.

[Jacob Mantle, Conservative, York—Durham, ON]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I believe when we suspended, I had moved a motion to request that the justice minister appear before committee to do clause-by-clause consideration.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

We've already moved on from that.

[Jacob Mantle, Conservative, York—Durham, ON]

I realize that you ruled on that, Mr. Chair. What I would like are the reasons for that ruling.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

There are no reasons, Mr. Mantle. I made up my mind based on information I had before me.

[Jacob Mantle, Conservative, York—Durham, ON]

Thank you. I assume it's arbitrary, then.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

No, it's well thought out, in fact, Mr. Mantle, but if you want to question my judgment again, feel free to do so. It will be the last time you speak.

[Jacob Mantle, Conservative, York—Durham, ON]

I can't question it without the reasons. Feel free to put them on the record.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

All right. Who's next?

Go ahead, Mr. Brock.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

Thank you, Chair.

I have some housekeeping matters to address first. I asked you some questions earlier today, and I found out that an email shared with our leadership seems to indicate that resources are now available on today's date until midnight. I would like clarification on that, sir, if you have the information to confirm or deny it.

Second, several colleagues have approached me with issues regarding travel, specifically in relation to whether we are sitting tomorrow. Decisions need to be made and flights need to be booked. I don't know if you have an update for us, Chair, with respect to sitting tomorrow.

Again, the Conservatives are prepared to do that if resources are available to us. If you could address that at some point, sooner rather than later, Chair, it would be appreciated.

Now that I officially have the floor, perhaps I'll give you the opportunity of addressing that before I move on.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

I was going to say that I thought it was official.

I haven't seen the email you're referring to. As I explained to you earlier today, I put in a request for additional resources in the future. I have no further information for you beyond what I had earlier today.

[Roman Baber, Conservative, York Centre, ON]

Which future is that? Is it the distant future or the near-term future?

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

As far as travel plans go, with the nature of our job, I probably change my flights three times every week. I will give you the information as soon as we have it, Mr. Brock.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

My only concern is that given the House is expected to rise shortly after QP, there are going to be a number of members utilizing the Ottawa International Airport. Many of us may not be able to book a flight, so the sooner we know, the better, so we can make appropriate arrangements.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Again, it seems you have better information than I do. The House is rising.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

Maybe I do.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

That's the best thing I've heard you say all day.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

Maybe I do. I have a lot left in the tank, believe me. I have hours and hours left in the tank.

Given that I officially have the floor, I am now moving this motion: That, given the Minister of Justice is in Ottawa today, the committee invite him to appear immediately in relation to Bill C-14 with respect to bail and sentencing, followed immediately by clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-14, followed by clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-9.

I'd like a recorded vote, please.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

The motion is not receivable, Mr. Brock, because we're still in the middle of the discussion on the subamendment. If you have submissions on the subamendment, you have the floor.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

What authority are you relying upon, Chair?

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

We're dealing with a subamendment, which is a motion in itself. It's one motion at a time. It's not receivable at this time.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

All right.

Can I seek unanimous consent at this point, for all the reasons I have read out?