Evidence of meeting #5 for Public Safety and National Security in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was skills.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Ross Toller  Regional Deputy Commissioner of Ontario, Correctional Service Canada
Pushkar Godbole  Director General, Technical Services and Facilities, Correctional Service Canada
Liette Dumas-Sluyter  Acting Assistant Commissioner, Corporate Services, Correctional Service Canada
John Sargent  Chief Executive Officer, CORCAN, Correctional Service Canada

3:50 p.m.

Director General, Technical Services and Facilities, Correctional Service Canada

Pushkar Godbole

I don't have a specific answer to that question. I can say that in general in Quebec we purchase our food through the standard government procurement methods, which involve local standing offers, local purchases, and basically the same methods we use in other areas where we do not buy from CORCAN. I don't have a percentage as to how much of that food is local, but generally speaking it would be procured through the standard government tendering process. A small portion of the food that we buy for the Quebec region is in fact supplied by CORCAN, at present from the CORCAN Ontario--

3:50 p.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

I know that, I can read, it is written here.

Mr. Chairman, on a point of order.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Holland

Yes.

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Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

On a point of order.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Holland

I am listening.

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Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

I requested that Mr. Vaillancourt appear, because he would have been able to answer all of the questions that I have just put. Indeed, he knows the numbers. However, I am being sent someone who is not able to respond, apparently, because he is not the person in charge of the food provisionment system. I put very specific questions to Correctional Service Canada.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Holland

Yes, I understand, but...

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Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

I asked that Mr. Vaillancourt be present. We were told that the person who would be replacing Mr. Vaillancourt would answer all of our questions, but this individual is not able to do so.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Holland

Give me a moment. If I understand correctly, you asked to hear a witness who is not present, and the person's replacement is not able to answer your questions. This is very unfortunate, but...

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Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

I do not understand.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Holland

I could ask if it would be possible that another witness...

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Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

... return...

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Holland

I could ask them to return on this matter at our next meeting, because the committee will be pursuing its study of this issue next week.

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Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Holland

Would it be possible for those people able to answer Ms. Mourani's questions to attend next week?

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Regional Deputy Commissioner of Ontario, Correctional Service Canada

Ross Toller

Again, I can't speak to their availability next week. We can pursue that quite quickly. The other thing we could do is that if there are elements that are not able to be answered today, we can undertake to get back to the committee. That's another option.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Holland

There are therefore two options, but...

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Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

I would prefer that Mr. Vaillancourt be present.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Holland

There is a problem, because a lot of witnesses will be attending next week. I believe there will be ten of them, but it is certainly very important that there be someone able to respond to your questions next week. Would it be possible to send them Ms. Mourani's questions and to have them supply answers to the committee as quickly as possible?

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Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

Mr. Chairman, they have all received these questions. The questions were forwarded long ago. I had made a specific request, but there was no response.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Holland

I understand full well. This is why I asked that a person able to answer your questions be present at next week's meeting. That is a valid point, I agree.

3:55 p.m.

Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

Thank you.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Holland

But, if possible, responses should also be given...

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Bloc

Maria Mourani Bloc Ahuntsic, QC

In written form, as well.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mark Holland

Yes, between now and the next meeting.

Ms. Glover.