Evidence of meeting #56 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was interference.
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March 2nd, 2023 / 4:05 p.m.
The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Miriam Burke
Madam Chair, the result of the vote is two yeas and nine nays.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bardish Chagger
The subamendment is defeated.
Mr. Julian, are you raising a point of order or do you want the floor?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bardish Chagger
I have to add you to the list.
As the subamendment was defeated, we're going back to the amendment. This is the amendment moved by Mr. Cooper.
Would I continue with my list or start a new list?
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Conservative
Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB
I'd like to speak however you continue your list.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bardish Chagger
We would continue with the list, so we would actually go to Mr. Berthold.
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Liberal
Greg Fergus Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC
Mr. Cooper’s proposal, with no amendments, is completely unacceptable for the reasons we have already covered. First, it would limit the scope of the motion too much. Also, for the reasons I mentioned, requiring unanimous consent is not the way forward, and it would be better to seek the support of three of the four political parties. For these two reasons, I cannot vote for Mr. Cooper’s amendment.
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Liberal
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC
Thank you very much, Madam Chair.
I think there was some confusion around that last vote. I understand that when a vote is called, you can't necessarily suspend, but I think it would be a good idea to suspend for a moment just to have the discussion as I'm not sure everybody understood exactly what the impact of Madame Normandin's subamendment was.
4:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bardish Chagger
Perhaps what we'll do is we'll suspend for a health break, and we will return at 4:20 p.m., in 10 minutes.
See you shortly.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bardish Chagger
Mr. Julian, you had the floor when I suspended. Did you want it back?
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC
I think it might be good for you to canvass. I think there was some confusion around the vote on the subamendment by Ms. Normandin.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bardish Chagger
Mr. Julian, are you suggesting...on the amendment? What are you suggesting?
Would you like me to bump you to the bottom of the list, Mr. Julian?
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An hon. member
I think he wants to move that we reconsider that last vote.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bardish Chagger
There's only one person after you right now. It's just Mr. Berthold. I can come back to you if you like.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bardish Chagger
I think that's all right. Why don't I do that?
Let's go to Mr. Berthold. Then I'll go to Mr. Julian and then Mr. Gerretsen.
4:25 p.m.
Conservative
Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC
We are just really curious about what Mr. Julian has to say. I think you need a few more seconds of the suspension.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bardish Chagger
I'm going to let Mr. Julian figure this out because I want to understand. We have to make sure we're running a functional meeting. Everything in this committee goes sideways really quickly.
I'm going to go to Mr. Gerretsen before I come to Mr. Julian.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON
To Mr. Julian's point, I would like to reconsider the previous vote. I'd ask you and the clerk, through you, for guidance on the best way to do that.
Can I move a motion to reconsider it? Can I move it separately, on its own? How does that happen?
